AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card Review

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Temperature & Noise Testing

Temperatures are important to enthusiasts and gamers, so we took a bit of time and did some temperature testing on both Radeon R9 270X video cards

AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB Idle Temperature

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The AMD Radeon R9 290X was found to idle at 35C with the fan running at just under 1100 RPM.  We tested at both ‘Quiet’ and ‘Uber’ BIOS modes and found that the idle temperature and noise was the same.  It should be noted that the ambient room temperature was 22.0C (72F).

AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB Quiet Gaming Temperature:

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AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB Uber Gaming Temperature:

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The temperature target of the AMD Radeon R9 290X is set to 95C by default, but GPU-Z showed that we were hitting 94C on both cards and not going over that temperature. Notice that with the Radeon R9 290X set to ‘Quiet’ mode the fan was spinning at 2100RPM or 40% and in ‘Uber’ mode we wthe ere hitting 2700 RPM at 50% fan speed. This is a bit odd as Uber mode has the fans set to go up to 55%.  AMD said that since we were not running at the full fan speed that we can either can either decrease target temperature or increase clocks a bit as there is still some fan headroom left.

temp-testing

The AMD Radeon R9 290X has a temperature target setting of 95C by default and our reference card topped out at 94C with both Quiet and Uber BIOS settings. At idle the card hard the same clock settings and fan profile, so the temperature was the same at 35C.  We’ve certainly seen cooler cards, but AMD designed the Radeon R9 290X to run like this and says that it is well within reason and design tolerances.

Sound Testing

We recently upgraded our sound meter to an Extech sound level meter with ±1.5dB accuracy that meets Type 2 standards. This meter ranges from 35dB to 90dB on the low measurement range, which is perfect for us as our test room usually averages around 36dB. We measure the sound level two inches above the corner of the motherboard with ‘A’ frequency weighting. The microphone wind cover is used to make sure no wind is blowing across the microphone, which would seriously throw off the data.

noise-testing
The AMD Radeon R9 290X is fairly loud when gaming.  This is one of those cards that you will certainly hear over the other components inside of your chassis unless you have some crazy fans or a phase change cooler on your CPU. At an idle the Radeon R9 290X was a respectable 42.5 dB, but when gaming the blower fan ramps up and you’ll know it.  In ‘Quiet’ mode we were hitting 55.8 dB when gaming and in ‘Uber’ mode we were hitting 63.4 dB. In recent years we’ve seen companies really working on improving acoustics, so it is pretty wild that AMD is going a different direction here.

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  • Guy Parris

    You expect quality from a high end card. You expect to get something great for £450 to £515 not 94c and 400 watts and gets beating by something way more superior in every area which is the 780 and costs £500. This is the difference between amd and nvidia. Nvidia is more expensive for a reason you get what you pay for. Here in the uk the prices are pretty much the same. So I see why you yanks get pretty pissed about prices hahahaha you’s have no option but to favor amd for all this price/performance crap. over here it’s completely different and nvidia sells a lot more here.

  • Varren

    soo proabbly a dumb question but can i crossfore this with my 7990 ?

    • Rene

      Unfortunately, no, this is not possible. The R9 290x uses a “Hawaii” GPU which is different to the “Tahiti” GPUs found on a 7990 rendering them incompatible for Crossfire.

  • ha

    I have the evga 780. I overclocked 150+ mem/clock. pwr target 102%, it never goes above 75 c. except the one time I turned the fan to manual and forgot about it and it got up to 90 something before it shut off. yet it still runs like a champ.

    • Principle

      So what you are saying is that Nvidia’s larger chip cannot run as well as the AMD chip, which can happily run at 95C?? That means the Nvidia design is INFERIOR in robustness.

  • romulous75

    I think I’ll stick with my 7970 for now. That R9 290X sure gets hot and looks power hungry. In this day and when we pay a LOT more for power here in AU thanks to the greenies, less is better. (CO2 does not = HEAT, there’s no real proof).

  • Guy Parris

    hehe listen to all these fan boy’s getting mad. I don’t care about 95c blah blah haha may as well use your pc as an oven :P.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lZ3Z6Niir4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djvZaHHU4I8

    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_r9_290x_review/9

    don’t give up hope amd fan boy’s hopefully amd’s bullshit will come true one day there is always hope :D

    • zeemonkeyman

      Dude Just stfu already! Fancy calling someone else a fanboy when you are the biggest fanboy I’ve ever met! Get your head out of Nvidias ass FFS.

      • Guy Parris

        sorry dude it’s just my opinion and I have tried both camps not really a fan boy just had a shit experience with AMD more than a few times. Sorry if I have disappointed you. Awh my heads out my so called “nvidia ass” for sure you don’t have to worry about that.

        • Principle

          Sorry but youre just a troll and a newb yourself. You aint tried anything more than a few times.

  • Ryan5609

    I upgrade yearly and I would love to get this bad boy, but I think I am going to CF my 7970 instead. I can pick up another 7970 for around $250 so. 7970 CF will dominate most games @1080P and 1440P for the next few years, that is, until 4K gaming becomes more mainstream. Just seems like a better investment right now.

  • David Calloway

    Once again we have a win for consumers. Once upgraded cooling solutions are introduced the noise and temps. should be kept in check. R9 290X uses 60w more than a 780 under load; big deal. I love how the graph shows Evga’s OC’ed 780 using less power than a stock 780. I believe one of the main things Nvidia has been holding back on is fair pricing. To remain competitive they’ll have to launch the 780ti at prices lower than current 780 prices…. which is where they should have been from the start.

    • Guy Parris

      right now in the uk the 290x various from £450 right up to £515 depending on the card you get. the 780 gigabyte edition is only £500 and it wipes the floor with the 290x in every area, cooling, performance, noise, power consumption, everything. Even when they do bring 3rd party cards I don’t think the temps are going to be that much better because trying to get something from 95c down to reasonable temps is going to be a challenge. I hate how amd have lied out there arse about trying to make power consumption better trying to make there cards cooler and how it was going to be the titan killer. Now I see why there 20 billion dollars in debt. Nvidia are bringing out a 3 game bundle with there 780 soon assassins creed black flag, splintercell black list and batman origins I think the 770 is getting it as well but I know the 760 is only getting 2 of these games with there gpu. I would like to see how AMD comes back from that. Nvidia are all over them like a rash lol love it! :D
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djvZaHHU4I8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lZ3Z6Niir4

      • David Calloway

        On this side of the pond the 290x is about $100 less than a gtx 780. I think the 290x is pretty much on par with the 780 performance wise and that’s with immature drivers. As far as noise and heat goes; look at the difference between the standard 780 and Evga’s 780 SC. I do not think it’s unreasonable to not expect the same results for the 290x once aftermarket coolers become available. Evga’s 780 SC is a good representation of what the 780 is capable of so as far wiping the floor is concerned please refer to the benchmarks in this article.

        • Guy Parris

          well everyone else is getting different results from this site I have seen 3 other reviews seeing the 780 beating the 290x in benchmarks. So I’m sticking with them reviews. As for temps the 780 was 80c on load! no where near 94c. I feel sorry for Americans being stuck with cheap amd :(.All the best to you and your 94c card.

        • David Calloway

          The 290x will drop 15*C with aftermarket coolers under load just like the 780 did. I think Legit Reviews and AnandTech have benches that can be considered accurate. You might not like the results….. but it is what it is.

        • Guy Parris

          so your still looking at 80c load with aftermarket coolers which aren’t coming till Christmas time/next year so reference 780 temps lol fail!. Okay if you say so if these benchmarks make you feel better about your so called 290x titan killer then that’s good.

        • David Calloway

          I think these are more legitimate than YouTube benches. Aftermarket coolers will be out in a month. I do not understand your use of the word,’stuck’. We’re not stuck with either AMD or Nvidia, we can choose either and for about half of what you’re paying.

        • Guy Parris

          overclock3d is not a youtube reviewer they have there own site too. all you Americans go on about is how cheaper the 290x is compared to the 780 that’s why I’m saying “stuck” because you’s moan about prices there for you’s always favor amd because there cheaper.

        • David Calloway

          Only time will tell about the benches. It’s not about how much these cards cost, but cost relative to performance. This will force Nvidia to release the gtx 780ti at less than current gtx 780 prices ( at least over here ) which is a win for consumers.

        • Guy Parris

          so over here you can get a gigabyte 780 for £500 comes with batman origins or you can get a asus 290x reference for £499 comes with bf4. what one would you pick?

        • David Calloway

          I would not pick a reference card because they’re too noisy. Between those two I’d chose the Giga. It looks like you are getting price gouged with AMD tech. over there. I’m currently using a 780 Classified.

        • Guy Parris

          nice, so are you going to get a 290x?. yeah I’m not all that for amd tech though much prefer nvidia.

        • David Calloway

          Depends on performance increase with mature drivers, aftermarket cooling, noise and price. Price mainly becomes an issue when you find yourself dumping $600+ every year to stay on the bleeding edge.

        • Guy Parris

          I would keep your 780 sc because that’s a cracking card and I would just save for maxwell coming next year. There’s no point in chucking a good card away for the 290x. The 3rd party coolers are not coming till december/next year supposedly. I wouldn’t get your hopes up about temps I don’t think they will drop that much and AMD drivers suck trust me I have switched twice to AMD and it will be the last. I know man pc gaming is expensive :( I’m planning on keeping this 770 for at least 2 years or maybe sell up for maxwell see how it goes.

        • Principle

          Hey Guy, tell me one reason that I care that the temp is 70, 80 or 90C????? I dont!!!! It was made to work at 95C, just like most of the PC hardware a few years ago. because inferior manufacturing in the last few years and what not maybe stuff was failing because of heat. But the acceptable practice for most commercial hardware is at least 85C operating temp, and at least 125C for military systems, and even higher. So your point about the temp is pretty much pointless. I could likely run a 290X for 3 years non-stop at 95C and it would still be going.

        • Guy Parris

          hey principle enjoy your pc oven :)

        • Principle

          They all generate heat, some just shed it more, but don’t kid yourself, they are all generating this heat, but some coolers absorb and shed it better. So the 780 and Titan probably generate MORE heat, but they disapate it better with more expensive cooling. Do you understand so far? Whether its in the chip or in your air, youre getting the heat.

          Now, CPUs had been rated and running to 90 and 95C for a decade before, did you care then?

        • Kendra Jacobs

          You are so wrong it’s not even funny.

          Like Principle’s reply, it doesn’t necessarily generate more heat, it all depends on how much heat the cooler steals from the chip. So if the cooler steals more, than the chip’s sensor would read lower, even though they might both be generating the exact same amount of heat. The heat would be the same wether its in the chip, or not being measured by the chip’s sensore but in the water, pipes, radiator fins etc. and ultimately the air

        • Kendra Jacobs

          Exactly

        • Guy Parris

          you expect things to get better and improve over the years no? nvidia has done it with power consumption, temps, gpu boost 2,0, shadow play, hbao+. your forgetting the point! amd said that there working on using less power consumption and bettering temps and they haven’t meet that. While you sit with your 95c card and 40c on idle. I will be sitting with my 4gb msi 770 gaming editon 50c to 60c load and 23/24c idle nice cool system. While you sit and cook your dinner in your pc and game lol probably melt your motherboard while your at it.

        • Brantyn Gerik

          I’m a nvidia fan, but your argument isn’t a great one for enthusiasts. heat is fine as long as it is within safe limits…for this card, a non reference cooler keeping it under 90 and most likely doing so quietly is a success and sadly will probably beat out any nvidia card currently out. Based on the price of the 780ti however, it is likely it will be the next top single card. You won’t melt your motherboard or cook your dinner with this card, stock or otherwise….

        • Guy Parris

          yeah. Well the 780 is now about £40 cheaper in the uk than the 290x and the 780 comes with free games and you can get a much better 780 than you would a 290x you can get the 780 gigabyte for £390. Nvidia is all over amd now with prices. Subject: Re: New comment posted on AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card Review

        • Kendra Jacobs

          80 degrees, who cares lol. Whether your osd says 80, 85 or 90, if the card is built to run 95 degrees it’s entire life span like amd said it is than who cares. It doesn’t affect frames, lag, stutter, overclocking, etc. You will find the limits of the chip’s clocks before you reach the heat limits so it’s fine over oc’ing too.

        • Guy Parris

          I watched a review and the person couldn’t overclock it because it was just to hot. He’s going to have to use a water block lol

        • Brantyn Gerik

          Legit reviews is better than AnandTech for being biased (Anandtech is proven to be the most amd biased review site out there). OC3D seems to have the most extensive and most unbiased review of the card seeing as they are actually funded by amd for the most part lately,,,At 1080 and 1440 the overclocked 780s beat it in almost all cases…and the 780 is now cheaper, and comes with 3 free games.

      • Principle

        The 780 in now way, no how wipes the floor with the 290X. Show us the comparison. 20-30W less? Lower performance from the 780, 4dB less noise. Thats really pathetic analysis from you.

        • Guy Parris

          http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_r9_290x_review/9

          awh shut up and take a look I have posted vidoes on here so you can have another look at the 290x get beat and how bad the temps are. Stop being such an amd cry baby man.

        • Principle

          Youre in an AMD article that clearly shows the 290X is superior and telling everyone how bad the 290X is and how great the 780 is with your manipulitive information. So please explain who the cry baby is, youre being a troll.

        • Guy Parris

          I’m not being a troll just mocking the 290x and amd because there a joke. AMD is 20 billion dollars in debt and there cards are just going to get worse and worse. What did amd say they were going to control there power consumption and have better temps with there next gpu’s and look at it, it uses 400 watts and 94c. I just get fed of amd’s hype where going to do this where going to do that, you know what it’s all fucking hairy fairy bullocks!. mantle is the next thing it’s going to be all hype and a pile of garbage. I don’t know what person is going to pay £450 to £515 on a card like that when you can pay £500 for a gigabyte 780 which has sooooo much better cooling, it’s faster, uses less power consumption, quieter, gpu boost 2.0, hbao+, shadow play and I heard that nvidia is doing 3 game bundle with the 780 black flag, blacklist and batman origins.

        • Principle

          Hello, you just defined yourself as a troll if you didnt know what a troll is. Apparantly you’re just ashamed that such a shitty company has beaten Nvidia. And you are wrong yet again, AMD has 2 billion dollars of debt, and maintain more than twice that in cash and equity. And the 290X is nowhere near 400W, you are just lying now.

          To meet the same performance, you probably have to oveclock the 780, which then you lose your power consumption advantage. I could APPLAUD AMD for designing such a robust chip that it will happily run at such high temps with no problems. That is some seriously awesome engineering achievement. The older CPUs and GPUs built on larger feature sizes could handle it because of the smaller number of transistors in a larger area and thicker metals. Meanwhile your Nvidia crap would probably die before it ever hits 85C.
          Now please tell me how Nvidia increased its performance from the 770 to the 780? Or 680 to 780? Compare the power. Lets see 580: 244W, 680: 195W:, 780: 250W. Looks to me Nvidia did a 180 degree turn in the name of top end performance.
          Now how do you think they are going to get the 780TI to give more performance? And while the 7970GE was sitting well below the temps of the 770 and 780, I guess you were saying, oh man AMD’s 7970 is so great because its only 70C while the others are 80C. I dont think so, that lower temp likely didnt buy AMD one sale, or the 2dB lower in noise its fan made.
          So how about knowing what youre talking about before being so trollish.

        • Guy Parris

          They haven’t beaten nvidia at all when you look at this cheap looking card that runs 94c and uses 400 watts which cost more than a gigabyte 780 why the hell would you choose it? 780 has better drivers, much cooler, lower power consumption, less noise, shadow play, hbao+, physx, smoother frames, more powerful. You know what’s funny how it has take amd 10 years yes 10 years to actually smooth there frames out nvidia has been there and done that a long time ago. This is why amd lack because there just noobs of the industry. hahaha mate look the 7950 uses 250 watts and that’s a weak ass amd card!! the 780 would destroy it while using the same power usage!! you see where I’m getting at amd lack in every department. So your comparing something that uses 250 watts that can beat something that uses 400 watts mhm right. The 780 is way cooler the reference 780 is around 80c load so your looking at 80c load for the 290x when the bring third party coolers because on average it knocks like 15c of the reference so that’s a FAIL!!. Like many people have said the titan is not for gaming it’s a work station card a compute card. A 780 overclocked edition beats the titan. It’s funny how the 290x can’t even beat a graphics card not made for gaming lol. How long has it taken them to come back with something against nvidia it’s taken months? and the results are disappointing. A overclocked 780 beats this 290x by 15 fps on average. The 260x and 270x can’t even beat a 760 the 770 beats the 280x and the 780 beats the 290x. Nvidia are all over these guy’s like a rash there’s no way amd will ever be on top it has taken them months to come back with something you would have expected something great but no it’s a complete let down. I have posted reviews on here have a look if you don’t believe me that the 780 beats the 290x unless you want to stick to 2 reviews. All this mantle is probably another load of bullshit hype from amd. It’s not called trolling its called having an opinion.

        • Principle

          You continue to troll with your lies and ignorance. When you have an opinion based on bias and ignornance instead of facts its trolling. AMD is a newb? ATI was wiping the floor with Nvidia a decade ago. And Nvidia had terrible drivers for years, that is until they paid off game developers to work with them exclusively ahead of their release. The 290X beats a Titan and an OC 780, this review shows that, so maybe you should go back to whatever biased half cocked review that doesn’t and play with your AMD bashing friends.

        • Guy Parris

          okay so nvidia drivers are that bad the beat amd in there amd evloved games like tomb raider, far cry 3, bioshock, crysis 3 please. AMD have the worst drivers I have been there and done that I went with amd 7950 with my first build and 3 months down the line I swapped because I got flashing in games ect and all the drivers were beta beta beta yay driver suite 3 months later still no fucking difference. They suck at everything imo. I’m not biased just had my share of amd and nvidia and nvidia is much more Superior. Do you work for AMD by any chance?

        • Principle

          It appears you know how to read, but perhaps there is a comprehension problem. I said Nvidia had, until….your trolling just continues. First build with a 7950, come back in 5 years when you actually have more than two years of experience. I’m done, your trolling will never stop no matter how ignorant you make yourself appear.

        • Mohamad Azlan

          @principle, there’s a saying : “It’s easier to debate with 100 geniuses than 1 dickhead that’s in denial..” I feel you bro. xD

        • Guy Parris

          nvidia has turned back on itself with a much powerful card that beats the 580 easy and your saying that’s a bad thing? that’s an achievement. See the if the 290x used 250 watt or 280 watts I would be impressed. You think with so much heat they would be sacrificing something but they aren’t sacrificing anything it’s like they haven’t bothered there ass working on temps or power consumption just lazy bums no wonder there in debt. I hope they go down with the consoles. expect faulty consoles people with them all being amd in all!!.

        • Principle

          I am saying you are a liar and a hypocrite, a genuine troll. You are slamming AMD for the same practices that Nvidia is using. The 290X does only draw about 30W more than a 780, less than 300W, thats why it beats the 780 so easily for AND at less cost. Like the 780 beats the 770 for about 30W more, Or the 780 beats the 680 for 70W more.
          You have no idea what youre talking about, make crap up, and just came here to bash AMD. You can easily limit the 290X to the same 80C of the 780 and it will likely still beat the 780. Which by the way is 10C more than a normal 7970GE, so OMG Nvidia must suck. The 290X beats the AMD in “quiet” mode where the fan is just 3dB louder than a 780. 3dB is significant, but the 780 is a few dB louder than a normal 7970GE, so OMG Nvidia must have sucked then.

        • Guy Parris

          how am I lying? and it’s 50 watts not 30 watts so your the liar here! .look http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_r9_290x_review/1

          you can easily limit it lol it will explode. take a look at the benches also check linus tech tips it get’s beat there also. your sticking to one review to make yourself feel better hahahahaha.

        • Principle

          So now you want to use some real numbers and not your BS 400W value that you were lying about? And you want to base your judgement off the morons that said the 290X had no benefit from overclocking, when even these guys could figre that out and show the HUGE benefit and how well it scales in performance?

        • Brantyn Gerik

          Not to be as biased as Guy, as he is really just someone looking to argue for the sake of arguing but the only reviewers out there that have gotten any kind of OC from the 290x are this site and Anandtech. Both are known to be heavily biased on amd’s side and are also funded by amd in reviews. The OC3D guy is funded by amd and almost looks like he is about to cry because amd, who funds him, let him down with the card out of the box. Of course it’s an amazing card if it gets the right cooling, but as far as marketing, the 290x has had a horrible run so far, not being the BOOM factor that it was supposed to be. If they had released aftermarket coolers sooner, and not only revealed the price a day or two before launch, this card would likely have done better and not had such controversy from people on the nvidia side. Basically AMD only has mantle left up their sleeve. It will need to be a 10% gain or more to really make up for the lousy launch of their new flagship

        • Principle

          You think that they got some decent results because they took the time to try? Compared to the typical biased Nvidia sites, paid by Nvidia most likely, like Nvidia pays them to travel to their events and has been paying game developers for years. AMD driver updates give them 10, 20, 30% performance gains, so I don’t think Mantle will have any issue giving them 30% gains over typical DX/D3D titles.

        • Brantyn Gerik

          The driver updates would be a lot more beneficial if the 290x wasnt still running on GCN architecture…meaning the performance gains AMD is promising will not be as drastic as they claim to be. As much as everyone would like to see something like a 30% increase using mantle, the likelihood just isn’t there given the reputation.

        • Principle

          What reputation. Let me tell you what reputation. Look at the performance difference between AMD on OpenGL and AMD on D3D. Look at how much AMD beats Nvidia in OpenGL games, and Mantle would be better than that.

        • Guy Parris

          hahahaha they maintain more than twice. They loosing money daily!!

        • Principle

          I think we both speak English, and I dont know what loosing money is, is that the opposite of tightening money? Have they opened their arms and let their money flow? They actually posted a about $75M in profit last quarter and guide to more this quarter and next, so there goes more of your wrong info.

        • Kendra Jacobs

          1) It barely uses more power than a 780, 40-60 more watts during gaming times will be such an insignificant amount added to energy costs lol.

          2) 780 is not faster, why do you keep saying this when most of us probably just finished checking out 5+ different R( 290X reviews and all of them say the same thing, it trades blows with the titan, and is almost always faster than a 780. Can you not read the ton of reviews already out? You are either retarded, an ignorant fanboy that clouds his brains logic by how he wishes things to be, or your just blind. Well I doubt your blind and, well, probably not retarded, not so sure about that one though.

          3) AMD officially said that its built to handle consistent 95 degree temps and that it’s fine running that for it’s entire lifespan, but more importantly you know as well as I and every single other person on here that the custom cards will have wayyyy better cooling, I mean, WHO BUYS REFERENCE CARDS ANYWAYS (unless you’re adding your won cooling).

          4) You have no argument, you are clouding all your reasoning by how you want things to be, rather than how they truly are as measured by unbiased hard data (reminds me of hardcore religious ppl), so shut up, take the numbers for what they are not what you want them to be and wait for NVidias response with the 780 ti, simple as that my friend.

        • Brantyn Gerik

          Actually he has you on this one. OC3D is primarily funded by AMD at the moment….

        • Principle

          It looks to me they likely didn’t try very hard, or at least did not make mention of what they attempted.

        • Brantyn Gerik

          they tried a 100+ offset on the core and the card would not do anything besides ramp up the fan and throttle back because it would hit the 95 temp target, almost all of the more popular reviewers like linus (who i agree defs has a pref for nvidia) and elric are getting the same results in regards to overclocking and performance at the more common resolutions up to 1440p (4k is negligable untill the prices come down under 1500 instead of the current 3 grand)

        • Principle

          Well its a good thing Legit Reviews laid out the simple steps they took in setting the fan speed and using AMD’s overclocking tool. Turn down the AA and the 290X is likely to do much better. So for people that care more about frame rates at high resolution, AA is not needed. Even at 1440P and especially 1600P, AA is not as necessary. Anti-Aliasing is to smooth edges, but as pixel density goes up the need to do that is limited. Its not always just about setting something on the max settings. Its also about optimizing the settings for the scenario and getting what is an acceptable frame rate for you. So who would care if the 780 could maintain 42fps and the 290X 40fps, when if you turn off AA at 1600P and now the 780 has 46fps and the 290X has 61fps

  • lamovnik
    • lotech

      Guy parris sounds like a frustrated person who spent too much for his 770 and hates americans.

      • Principle

        Yeah, he is upset the US won the revolution. And he is a troll.

  • Guy Parris

    you see when they say system when they test power consumption is that just the gpu or is that the whole system as in motherboard, cpu , ram, cpu cooler ect?

    • David Calloway

      Everything drawing power from the PSU.

    • Principle

      This basic question puts most of your comments into perspective. Now, unfortunately you are not alone in this and a lot of people could use a lesson in what these power consumption benches really mean. There are many factors, like power supply efficiency. Standard would be at least 70% efficient AC to DC conversion, but you can easily buy an 80% or even 90+% efficient supply, so as power draw goes up so does the disparity in many comparisons. This is why the 80+ rating on power supplies came about when systems started drawing more than 500W. And every motherboard and peripherals draws different amount of power. One system may be using a Raptor hard drive or 3 and the other an SSD. They try to make some determination about GPU draw from idle to loaded, but what about the CPU, etc….Assuming you have the same CPU and motherboard and everything else then you can make a decent comparison, but a lot of these reviews are from different rigs all together, taken over years.

    • Kendra Jacobs

      Ummmm the answer is right in front of your face, SYSTEM. That means the whole system. This just proved how much of a noob you are, really, like did you just ask that but then expect people to take you seriously with all your bs trolling here? If I saw this before I would have never even bothered with my other replies to you. You clearly have no understanding of anything you’re talking about. Surprised you’re even a pc guy to begin with (rather than console).

      • Guy Parris

        I’m sorry I got confused about that, sorry to disappoint but I do know my gpu’s and amd is wank! :)

        • Rene

          Guy Parris, you are by far one the biggest trolls/fanboys that I have seen on VideoCardz to date. Get your facts and perspectives in order. As already stated, this question you have stated has compromised most of your comments. How about being a bit nicer, opening your mind a little and everyone might not dislike everything you write…

  • This is not over

    Nvidia announced that the “Geforce 780 Titanium” will be released soon…

    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/10/grx780.jpg

  • Fox

    Almost 70db, 95c heat, and nearly 500w of power usage? I really wanted one of these, but not at that cost. If you bought 2 of these your computer would qualify as a heater. I think I’ll wait for the better coolers to hit the market. I’ll take the power usage but not the 70db and 95c.

    • Polaco

      well you can use power tune to tweak fan speed and other stuff like that. and 500W is total system power consumption. Sincerely the posted values are not to far from Titan/GTX ones. You may also find cards with non reference coolers that run the card at lower temps… so at it would definitely worth to consider if you are going to upgrade. Let’s just wait a bit for Sapphire, MSI, etc to hit the market. :)

    • reratsat

      Stock coolers with no heatsinks, acceptable vapor chamber… If it were in the middle of the card you would see ~83c and much better results. I’m waiting for the custom cooler models.
      http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/43/IMG0043131.png

    • gon

      I didn’t see 70db anywhere other than when they purposefully set an agressive temp target *while* running a game. The chart on page 11 shows 63.4db which is still not ideal, but a far cry from 70db.

      Still, it’s true that this card will need a top tier aftermarket cooler to show its true potential, 95c is just too much but I’m sure everyone would be happy with an 80c target while being able to keep the 1ghz target (or even surpass it? we don’t really know how bad or good is AMD’s stock cooler)

    • Principle

      You are ridiculous, those numbers are not even accurate. They are what was said for dB and heat but for different situations, if you overclock thats your problem and dont kid us, the minute after you verify it works, you would pull that cooler off anyway to install your watercooler block. 500W, was the system consumption and youll notice the 780 and Titan are not much behind that, so not sure what you plan to use thats much better?

  • parkmcgraw

    I wonder if the Radeon R9 290X, not needing a secondary Crossfire interconnect bridge, means that this GPU card only requires a PCIe 3.0 compliant expansion slot to remain fully functional.

    Does the Radeon R9 290X in Crossfire mode have hardware dependencies and motherboard matching requirements beyond needing a PCIe 3.0 compliant slots, or is this the R9 290X no longer in need of a motherboard that is specifically “Crossfire” rated?

    In closing, is the R9 290X fully Crossfire compatible when paired together with a traditionally non Crossfire rated motherboard, though furnished with PCIe 3.0 compliant expansion slots, such as the Intel W2600CR Dual 2011 motherboard?

    The following URL are links to the Intel W2600CR motherboard.

    http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/server-motherboards/server-board-w2600cr.html

    http://ark.intel.com/products/56338/#

    http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/sb/g34153003_s2600ip_w2600cr_tps_r110.pdf

    http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/sb/configurationguidecrown_gold_rev19final.pdf

    • Principle

      PCIe2 is fast enough still to crossfire over the bus no problem. Just look at the bandwidth they have. So if you have two x16 slots its no issue. If you start doing X8 X8 X4 triple crossfire on PCIe2 you might start having an issue.

  • basroil

    To be honest, I was hoping for a more dramatic release… Sure it beats the 780 in some games when settings are near, but not at, the max settings, but not by a spectacular amount (aside from some AMD optimized games). Price is nice, but if the 780Ti comes in at $650 and 780 drops to $500 it will be a much tougher sell.

    • Polaco

      well the chart says 55db for 290XQuiet mode and 51db for titan/780 so they don’t seem so far…

      • basroil

        Perhaps those charts do, but even a 5dB difference at that high a range is quite loud, like regular conversation vs domestic dispute. The other thing it doesn’t tell you is that most people are going to overclock the beast because there’s no point in a second tier high end card. The problem is that the R9-290x seems to have already hit a thermal wall between quiet and uber modes, since uber mode usually increases performance ~1-3% but doubles the noise. The reference 780 got up to 20% increase with 50% less noise increase!

        • Polaco

          well, according to some reviews it has plenty OC headroom if you provide improved cooling solutions, I would like to see some MSI or Sapphire implementations.

        • Principle

          You guys want to compare the cooling on a $650 card vs a $550 card, get real. At relatively similar power and noise the 290X comes out ahead.

    • Principle

      Its called aftermarket cooling solutions. If you want to fork out the cash for better cooling then do it. AMD is selling something that does beat the 780, hands down, for a lot less cash. AND most people that buy these things or two or three are going to pull the cooler off anyway and water cool. If youre just a normal guy with one of them, you can probable live with it, or buy the Asus or MSI version with better cooling for $100 more and still cheaper than a 780.

  • Fabian Munoz

    Doh! And next Friday is payday!

  • Strider

    To call that an impressive launch would be an understatement. At that price point, posting those numbers, on day one drivers vs hardware that’s got a several month head start. Have to give props to AMD.

    This is a win for everyone.

    AMD fans get a hugely competitive price on a card that holds it’s own and even beats the best Nvidia has out today.

    Nvidia fans will get the response to this, either in the form of lower prices on the high end Titan and 780SC, becasue lets face it, these cards are still pure beast. They don’t magically loose their power becasue there is a new contender on the block. Or with the 780Ti, or hey, maybe even both. We all know Nvidia has been holding back since AMD had nothing to really challenge them, now we may get to see what they have been holding back.

    Either way, damn fine launch numbers for the 290X, it’s going to make a fantastic replacement to my 7970 OC.

    • nvidia rules all

      agreed. <– nvidia fan

    • John P. Myers

      Not quite a win for everyone. No effect on gaming, but if you’re into CAD, F@H or BOINC, it turns out FP64 on the 290X has been reduced to 1:8 FP32 instead of 1:4 like pretty much everyone expected. This puts it at only 704 GFLOPS. Not a “Titan killer” in this regard at all. Not even close, though it does still beat every other Nvidia GPU. However it also makes a 7970GE ~45% faster in this area, and they’re much cheaper.

      • Strider

        The Titan is far more of a “compute” card than a gaming card, this is somewhere AMD really does not care to compete nearly as much as gaming. They focus almost entirely on gaming, where as Nvidia does not.

        So when I say it’s a win for everyone, I am talking about gaming.

        There are just not enough gamers willing to drop a grand for compute applications. However, in that respect, the Titan is actually competitively priced. So if you intend to do a lot of compute functions in a workstation, and gaming, then it’s still your best choice.

        For the rest of the world however, not so much. =]

        • Guy Parris

          but like you said it’s not a gaming card! the reason why it’s so expensive!. It’s not a grand over here it’s only £740. I feel bad for amercians :(

        • Strider

          Don’t be, you’re still paying more than we are. £740 is about $1197. =P

        • Guy Parris

          :(

      • Principle

        Get a FirePro :v) Maybe AMD finally learned their lesson, that review sites and consumers didnt care about compute performance, they care about FPS!!! So Nvidia stole a lot of share on the market because they have a bit better FPS for the past year. Meanwhile AMD wiped the floor on actual compute performance. Well they didn’t make any money that way, so you can still get a 280X to do that and still way better than other Nvidia GPUs, and now cheaper at only $299. Or get a FirePro.