AMD To Show Off Radeon R9 290X Video Card in Montreal Tomorrow!

If you’re in Montreal tomorrow you can get a sneak peak at the upcoming AMD Radeon HD R9 290X video card running on a 4K monitor! AMD will be hosting a public event at the Hilton Bonaventure hotel in the Jacques-Cartier meeting room in downtown Montreal, Canada. There is an open door policy in the afternoon for gamers between 3pm to 8pm that would like to get a true hands-on gaming experience with the new ‘Hawaii’ powered GPU. AMD informed us that they will have systems running both the AMD Radeon R9 290X and the NVIDIA Geforce GTX 780, so you can do some comparisons when you are there. AMD will be running “Bioshock Infinite” at 4K resolutions during the event.

AMD Radeon R9 290X Event Details

Where: Hilton Bonaventure Montreal

Address: 900, de La Gauchetière Ouest

Room : Jacques-Cartier

Time : 3 p.m. to 8 p.m.

UPDATE: The event is now open to the public.  You can see AMD Radeon R9 290X versus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 benchmark results in two game titles from this PR event here.

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  • Guy Parris

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djvZaHHU4I8

    even your lovely linux review the 290x get’s fucking spanked loooooooool!!!

  • Guy Parris

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lZ3Z6Niir4

    see people this is why amd is a joke, they talk shit and they never meet there target’s.bullshitting horrible fucking cheap ass company. All you amd boy’s just lap there hype up and it makes me laugh. Complete and utter goons!!. I told the lot of you but no no amd is this amd is that you’s believe your own shit as well as amd’s stop being cheap skates.

  • Cosata

    a lot of haters and AMD lickers in here… sad…

  • BlackWing88

    im going to try to save up for this card it would look bad ass on a EVGA Z87 FTW mobo

  • David Calloway

    Future console ports are going to be AMD arch. optimized, further widening the gap between green and red team. Nvidia are just a little sore about the current state of affairs with Sony and Micro$oft. AMD played their hand well with that whole ordeal.

    • Guy Parris

      lol it really wont. I’m sure nvidia will be fine since they seem to beat amd in there gaming evolved games anyway. Just have to wait and see, I was close to getting the 8350 until I read the horrible reviews about it. It can’t even beat a 3570k when it’s clocked at 4.8ghz.

      • David Calloway

        Alright, let’s keep things relevant. First you start off with gpus and then end up with cpus. The very long in the tooth 7970ghz really isn’t that far behind the new gtx 780 for less than half the money. You’re right about the gtx 790 being a power house when it comes out. It will hold the top spot until it gets beat down by AMD’s dual gpu version of the r9 290x …. again for less money. I question your tech. knowledge; you’re all over the gtx 770 4gb. Explain how a card with 4gb being forced through a 256 bit bus is of any benefit at all. The 4gb versions were released later than initial launch as a marketing scheme to make money off the less tech. affluent , ‘ gotta have it ‘ crowd. It’s kind of like marketing PCIe x16 3.0 motherboards. Currently the ONLY benefit of having a PCIe x16 3.0 certified motherboard is the ability to run two cards at 2.0 speeds.

        • Guy Parris

          There is also rumors that the card is running very hot lol. I’m telling you amd is a pile of garbage no wonder origin pc dropped them even at my local pc supplier they all go nvidia because amd is a pile of wank.

        • David Calloway

          Wow! Origin PC market analyst must be so much smarter than the ones working for Sony and Micro$oft. AMD has had quite a few set backs, but as a corporation they’re much more diversified than Nvidia. With the release of next gen. consoles their stock will slowly climb. I’m currently using a 2nd. gen. I7, you know….. with a soldered lid….. how are your temps. treating ya? Yeah, Intel cuts corners too.

        • Guy Parris

          770 right now is sitting at 22c, 4670k is sitting at around 28c. 500r case with 5 120mm and a 140mm on the side. trying to upload temps but file is to big.

        • David Calloway

          Judging by your gpu temp. your household ambient temp. is about 72*F. Case fans will not really matter here…. push that I5 to about 4.7, run IBT and watch those temps. go through the roof; even on H2O. Even the companies we choose to use screw us at times. Intel sells us an unlocked cpu that we have to void the warranty to OC worth a damn. That’s on 1150, 2011 cpus are still soldered.

        • Guy Parris

          no need to overclock just yet but if I did it overclock it to 4.2ghz say it would still beat a 8350 at 4.8ghz and it will stay cooler than that amd cpu. amd is always hot whether it’s cpu or gpu.

        • David Calloway

          With their cpus yes, gpus goes back and forth. All I’m saying is we need a competitive market. Because AMD was late to market, Nvidia pushed their gtx 680 ( gtx 770 ) and scaled down their Titan ( gtx 780 ) because of lack of competition. We need for the r9 290x to be a strong offering to push Nvidia to release a gtx 780 ti or ultra ( what ever ) that’s stronger than they would normally let it be without market competition. The same thing is going on with Intel’s I core right now. Your I5 starts having thermal issues around 4.4, whereas my 2600k will run to 4.8 without much issue. 2nd. gen. I core @ 4.8 is really close to 4th. gen. @ 4.3 performance wise….. why?….. because Intel is currently only in competition with itself. When we as consumers start kicking out $700+ for new hardware it’d be nice for it to be for more than 10% performance gain.

        • Guy Parris

          there’s a guy that oc’d his 4670k to 4.8 without issues and it’s stable. go and have a look

        • David Calloway

          Stability isn’t the problem. Unless the cpu is delidded, the temps. become the problem for long term use, not to mention v-core voltages tend to be high enough to shorten cpu life. This of course isn’t a problem if you upgrade with every gen.

        • Guy Parris

          hence the reason why I don’t overclock. The company that built this for me would have overclocked it but I asked them not too. don’t see the point in overclock but I do buy factory overclocked cards though.

        • David Calloway

          Where’s the fun in that sh**t? Why pay for a k series if you’re not going to push it.

        • Guy Parris

          k just sounded cool

        • David Calloway

          You mean after all your kicking up dust in this thread about cheap AMD etc. etc. You blew extra cash on, ‘ sounded cool’.

        • David Calloway

          So you have a boutique build. The I5 you have is a great gaming chip. I Core chips w/out Hyper Threading tend to OC better than their I7 brothers. Can you access and overclock in your BIOS at all? Reason being is to not have any cpu bound losses you need to get your chip up passed the 4.0 mark….. say about 4.2 which is ideal for frame rates and temps.

        • Guy Parris

          I prob will take it to 4.2ghz when it starts to slow down a bit.

        • David Calloway

          Which heat sink is installed….. don’t tell me stock Intel…..

        • Guy Parris

          be quiet dark rock advanced c1

        • David Calloway

          Yeah, that one’s good enough to keep things in order @ 4.0-4.2

        • Guy Parris

          I was going to water cool but it’s the thought of leaking didn’t want to chance it.

        • Guy Parris

          rig

        • David Calloway

          Looks like a Giga D3HP with a SSD hiding in the drive rack. Be Quite is a brand more popular overseas than it is here.

        • Guy Parris

          rig

  • David Calloway

    Look, all Titan owners are a little nervous because AMD have a card with Titan like performance for $250 less.

    • Sandcracka

      It’s not that they are nervous. They are just trying to justify their overpriced video card. Some people would pay 1,000.00 for a lump of crap in a box if it had Nvidia on the side.

    • Guy Parris

      the titan price well get dropped and no doubt nvidia will bring the 790 at the 290x price point. The 790 will wipe the floor with this cheap horrible card. You ever heard how slow and bad amd drivers are?. You pay for quality with nvidia and you get quality.

      • Tsunami

        Really? You think 790 (which is suppose to be better than the titan) will come out at a reasonable price like the 290x? How long has the titan been out? What does it STILL cost? I think these other guys are right..you’re just a fan boy with no knowledge on specs and GPU architecture. Show me the numbers Guy. What? No proof? Didn’t think so. Get bent.

        • Guy Parris

          lol burt hurt amd fan boy’s we will see :) wait and see.

        • Tsunami

          http://www.tomshardware.com/news/android-g-pad-jelly-bean-snapdragon-600-lg,24720.html

          Make sure you read the whole post, all the way to the bottom..and try not to get TOO butt hurt..

        • Guy Parris

          lol LG tablet whaaaaaaaaat? awh man your that guy that was saying a 7870 is on par with a 660 ti not a 7950 loooooooooool your the amd noob from youtube that thinks amd are the best thing that ever lived. pleeeeease give it a rest.

      • David Calloway

        The gtx 590 and 690 were $1000 at launch, dual gpu cards always are. Judging by your photo and you’re lack of punctuation I take it you’re fairly young and are not aware of Intel’s past underhanded business practices paying OEM’s to not launch AMD’s current gen. along side Intels which in turn cost AMD billions. In the end we consumers get screwed because of lack of competition. I’m currently using a 2600k which was a significant jump from first gen. I core cpus. There is absolutely no reason to upgrade to 3rd or 4th gen. for that matter because the performance increase just isn’t there. Read more, hate less, get a good career going on and maybe instead of settling for a gtx 770 you might be able to swing a gtx 780.

      • Thomas Kerr

        by your own acknowledgment you agree that it takes a 2 GPU card to beat a single GPU 290x and don’t hold your breath on that price drop by NVidia.

        • Guy Parris

          no no. I think the 780 will compete with the 290x where as the titan will beat the 290x hands down. Like I said in previous comments it’s rumored that the 290x is running very hot.

        • 13enz

          So Guy, I ended up folding and grew tired of waiting. Picked up 2x GTX 780′s AMP edition. Plugged it in and OC the balls off of it. Core clocked passed the Titan. Thing runs lower than 70c.. Ridiculous. Running Crysis 3 at 90-60 fps lol. I’m happy for now (need a new CPU, currently the bottleneck). Got the 780′s at $645 a piece, so figured why not. Tired of hearing different release dates. Oh, guess this does prove your bs fan boy accusations, assh*le :p.

          P.s, physx is a nice touch, kinda missed it a bit.
          Pps, If the 290x comes out and benches amazingly and marked at $650 a card.. Don’t get me wrong, these 780′s are hitting the road.

        • Guy Parris

          glad to hear you made the right choice. Even if the 290x does slightly beat the 780 it’s not worth the 800 watts for 2 of them and the heat. The 290x is running very hot man. You can even control power consumption on nvidia gpu’s. go to nc, manage 3d settings, go to programme settings, scroll down to the browser you use and set the power management to adaptive just means if your browsing and doing normal tasks your card’s aren’t using less power which means better idle temps. When I first got my 770 it was idle at 35/40 changed my power management for my browser and it dropped to 23/28 depending on how long the system has been on for. You can’t do this with amd there cards always sit at full use doesn’t give you the option to change the power management another reason why they kinda suck. Lol thanks, they do talk a lot of bullshit though. I can’t wait to see what all this mantle is going to do seems like a gimmick just like bulldozer. Do they feel smoother than amd?

        • 13enz

          With the dual 780′s OC’d and my i7 4770k OC’d.. my daily clock gets me 16.6K on Fire Strike lol…. Crysis 3 completely maxed, lowest is 60 fps, highest is 180. I’m pretty happy.
          BUT don’t get me wrong, if I had the patience, I would still pick up the 290x’s. Their still great cards by the looks of it. And I’m sure when their drivers mature, they’ll be even better. Still looking forward to seeing how these do on extreme systems. Downside is noise and heat.. but meh.

        • 13enz

          4770k derp derp.

        • 13enz

          4770k (4770 k in case it does this sh*t again to me)
          Dude.. this laptop auto “corrects”.. So I did spell it right the first time.. That’s messed up.

        • Guy Parris

          http://www.eteknix.com/rumour-nvidias-gtx-780-ti-will-cost-649-rival-amd-r9-290x/

          you might want to get 2 780 ti’s instead :). The 780 ti should beat the 290x. Sli is far better than crossfire as well.

        • Guy Parris

          http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-290x-video-card-review_126806/11

          There you go dude a legit review!. 290x is garbage!. 780 wins in my opinion pulls away in most games and other games there pretty level. The card runs at 94 load lol what a joke and the card is noisy as hell, typical from amd. The 780 ti will easily beat this pile of shit.

        • Guy Parris
        • Guy Parris

          http://videocardz.com/46822/first-amd-radeon-r9-290x-1080p-performance-review-leaks

          lol the 290x reaches 94c and uses 400 watts. This is what I mean cheap and nasty components they can’t even control there power consumption and temperatures. You see why origin pc dropped them?. titan might cost 200 more but that it will make up for the electric bills to run the 290x or possibly having to buy a new psu. As for you stupid boys that say the titan cost 1000 take a look will you.

          http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-asus-gtx-titan-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-6000mhz-gddr5-gpu-837mhz-boost-876mhz-cores-2688-dp-2x-dl-dvi-

  • 13enz

    Seems like Guy Parris is mad. Why you mad bro? This isn’t a topic on Nvidia. So why are you getting mad? If this poor little AMD card is slow and such, why are you getting your panties all tied up? You seem lost, no one is worried about the performance of this card here, no need to worry yourself too. Don’t be mad bro.

    • Guy Parris

      because amd said there going to destroy the titan… yeah looks like it. I’m not worried just saying amd talk a lot of crap and they can’t even reach there expectations. Just like how they said the 8350 was going to wipe the floor with intel yeah look how that turned out lol.

      • 13enz

        Actually, you’re wrong once again. This current topic is not on the 290x killing the Titan, it’s about the sneak peak in Montreal that sho… wait, why am I explaining this to you? You can read right? It’s easy to spot a hurting fan boy when he runs into a topic and starts throwing hate everywhere. So typical of you. Funny thing is, I bet hes not even getting paid LOL – he’s just mad.
        Mad?

      • john

        Please – for the love of GOD please link us to a amd statement saying that 290x will beat the TITAN… I remember that all their press said was that the 290 range will be pitted against the 780 – WTF are you babbling about kiddo??

        • Guy Parris
        • 13enz

          Bro… You’re beyond retarded. For someone that doesn’t like AMD you care a little too much if we buy a card or not. If you think Nvidia is all so great, then be happy you’re with them. What do you care if we buy AMD cards. Lol. You’re just mad bro. It’s obvious. All I read in your posts is “cry this”, “cry that”, “cry croissant”, “crryyy”.

        • Guy Parris

          I’m not your bro. I’m not crying lol the guy asked for me to send a link stating amd saying they will beat the titan so i did so. why you mad bro why you mad lol what’s with the bro are you a gangster or something?

        • 13enz

          Gangsters don’t say bro.. or if they do, that’s news to me. Here, more reading practice for you.

          http://videocardz.com/46929/official-amd-radeon-r9-290x-2160p-performance-17-games

          Enjoy. Feel free to troll in there as well and waste more time *thumbs up*

        • Guy Parris

          dude I’m not trolling I just don’t like company’s that bullshit just like microsoft. cool, I will read it.

        • Guy Parris

          come on dude that’s at 4k levels most gamers out there play at 1080p. You think all pc gamers have the money to buy a 4k? noooooo. that benchmark is e relevant.

        • 13enz

          …..lol.. That’s where that card is competing. There are numbers for you at lower resolutions too. Not sure what you want man. I’m going for what makes sense, given the price is competitive of course.

        • Guy Parris

          but most gamers do play at 1080p and for competitive prices man look. The titan is no longer £1000 like everyone keeps going on about. it uses less power consumption and is way cooler.

          http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-asus-gtx-titan-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-6000mhz-gddr5-gpu-837mhz-boost-876mhz-cores-2688-dp-2x-dl-dvi-

        • 13enz

          I’m not sure where you’re from or how legit that is. But here are the sites that are available to me and are in my area (Canada).

          http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121724&Tpk=Titan%20asus

          http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_559&item_id=058256

          So no, I really don’t see a point in paying an extra $300 for a Titan, if rumoured prices are correct for the 290x. If I’m going to CF 2 290x’s, it should be around $1300-$1500. If I were to SLi a couple Titans.. well you can do the math. And for what, a small percentage of gain? With two of either card, you can play just about anything at any resolution for the next year. By the time a games graphics would finally impair my performance, I’d already be looking forward to upgrade (1-1.5 years usually).

          The Titan is a great card, just priced ridiculously. 1 290x should play anything great at average resolution. But at higher resolution you’d require 2. Now, there is no way I’m spending that much scrilla on 2 Titans. I don’t care if they were delivered to my house by their hottest secretary. It’s not a matter of can I afford it, it’s a matter of falling for Nvidias bs prices and feeling fooled. There’s no way. Period.

          Ps. I’m clearly not a fanboy, I just want what makes sense and what’s worth it now for the time period I’ll be having it.

        • Guy Parris

          well I suppose if american’s and Canadians are paying that much I can see where you’s benefit from amd. In the uk it’s a different story. Amd are slightly cheaper but not by much.

        • 13enz

          Well in that case I can see your point as well. If I had those prices, I’d stick with the Titan as well. But, as it sits, 290x seems to be what makes the most sense. Now you understand why we’re all intrigued here in the West. Imagine you had to pay £700 for a Titan and only £400 for a 290x. Wouldn’t make too much sense would it. Or at least it doesn’t for me, and I bet for most here in North America.

        • john

          reading comprehension problems much?

          “with Battlefield 4 running with Mantle (AMD’s new graphics API), the card will be able to ridicule the Titan in terms of performance” – try running it by your English teacher to explain this sentence to you… and the “nuances”

        • Guy Parris

          sorry :(

        • Guy Parris
      • 13enz

        Ah and here you go, some reading material. Though, it’s apparent you have a difficult time reading.
        http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-radeon-r9-290x-benchmark-performance,24732.html
        Those are taken on “quiet mode” which makes me feel 2 things.
        1: Excited to see what normal mode will bring.
        2: Afraid to hear what normal mode sounds like lol.

        Regardless, I’m still very interested to see how this card turns out. And Guy Parris, yes, I’m planning on getting a 290x. In fact, 2 of them if I’m lucky to catch them in stock on launch. And no, I’m not a fan boy, I’ve owned 5 Nvidia and 4 AMD/ATI cards in the past. So give it up, no one cares for your poor judgement and expensive tastes. It’s not about Green or Red for me, it’s about what makes sense. You sir, make none.

        • Guy Parris

          well 780ti has been announced 290x is dead lol

    • jz100

      He definitely is, I noticed he is replying to every comment that like AMD. Why is he even here. Oh thats right, Nvidia does pay people to do this.

    • Guy Parris

      I’m not your bro lol typical yank

  • Guy Parris

    here come the amd fan boy’s lol. crying as usual because the card didn’t meet it’s expectations.

    • xx

      Huh? a 434mm2 die is able to beat a 550 mm2 die, that’s beyond any realistic expectations when both cards are on same process node.

      • Roboyt0

        Thank You xx! I’ve been through a dozen different sites having this same exact discussion, and all the Nvidia folks are saying, “It didn’t crush the Titan.” The problem is people are twisting AMD’s words around. AMD said it would easily beat the Titan in BF4 while taking advantage of the Mantle API.

        No one else has mentioned the die size difference between the 290X and the Titan. For the 290X being so much smaller, even if it matches performance in some games is a testament to its capabilities.

        The reality of the situation is though, we won’t know anything until REAL wesbites like OC3D, HardwareCannucks, TechPowerUp, Guru3D, AnandTech, and the like, get their hands on the cards to do proper testing.

        • Guy Parris
        • Jereme Weatherbee

          Do you even understand what to ridicule means? I will gladly write it out in *crayon* so even a fan boy like you can easily understand. “Ridicule: language or behavior intended to humiliate or mock; derision” So if the 290x can meet/beat Titan in performance and comes at the price of a 780, I would say that’s pretty much summing up the definition of Ridicule.

        • Guy Parris

          they were calling it the titan killer looool. I will try and find the article.

        • Guy Parris

          please that’s 4k resolution who plays at that resolution?

          http://videocardz.com/46822/first-amd-radeon-r9-290x-1080p-performance-review-leaks

          amd uses more power consumption and runs hotter as per usual. did you hear about the 780 ti?

        • Jereme Weatherbee

          I don’t care about power consumption, a few extra dollars a year isn’t much to worry about. Heat wise, anything would ramp up to insane temps with the fan locked at 40% in Furmark, lets be honest.

          I’ve heard about the 780ti and I’m looking forward to it but honestly if it beats the 290x by a few fps and costs $100+ dollars more, I’ll have a few 290x’s in my Rig not a fan boy just want the best bang for my buck. and what would stop AMD from releasing a 290x GHE

          About the 4k reolution, well lets say I already have a Seiki 39″ LED 4K 120hz Ultra HDTV. So it’s important to me atleast.

          PS: I know it’s not the best 4k tv but it does the job as a monitor.

        • Guy Parris

          if you have got the money then 290x would be better for you for 4k. 4k is just way to expensive for my liken. Yeah if I were you I would ditch the reference cards and go for an aftermarket 290x like gigabyte, msi ect cause reference cards are crap on both green and red. 94c is very high man that’s the highest I have seen a newly released gpu. The 780 ti cannot cost more than the titan if they do then that’s just plain silly. I would think they might add an extra 80 to 100 over the 780 for the ti. Like I have been saying to other guys in here the titan in uk is only 784 just now for the asus model.I guess we get it pretty luck over here. I stay in scotland so my rig always runs cool because scotland has the most miserable weather in the world.

        • Jereme Weatherbee

          Yeah I’ll get a aftermarket card for sure, I hate reference design’s. I’d honestly like to see if Sapphire makes a 6gb 290x Toxic edition, I’d bite on that.

          Sadly the Titan is $999 here in the states, I would buy a few 780s but I already invested in 2 680s and they do fine.

          Like I said though in my previous post it all comes down to price of the 780ti and the performance.over the 290x

          I could also wait to see what Maxwell or Pirate Islands would offer and just buy a 3rd 680 for now.

        • Guy Parris

          Maxwell should be great according to the stats between kepler and maxwell it’s quite a leap and bigger leap than previous generations anyway. your 2 680′s should blow most things out the water shouldn’t they? wait it out until maxwell ;).

        • Guy Parris

          http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/56733-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-windforce-3x/?page=3

          780 oc edition beats the titan in nearly every benchmark the 780 ti is going to be interesting man. over here the 780 is anywhere from 500 to 600.

  • bob

    amd’s got guts bioshock usually works better on nvidia cards

    • Guy Parris

      haha. look it can’t even beat the titan. AMD were determined it would beat the titan. http://www.techpowerup.com/192630/radeon-r9-290x-pitted-against-geforce-gtx-titan-in-early-review.html.

      AMD are a joke nvidia and intel are the best.

      • Baus

        Lol you’re retarded

      • 123

        Funny how you say AMD are a joke.
        Do you know what Intel’s x86-64 instruction set is really called?
        I doubt you do, it’s “amd64″.

        • Guy Parris

          it’s to bad intel completely destroy them isn’t it :(. Iol so what if it’s called amd it’s not an amd chip it’s all intel. Intel will beat amd until the day amd go bust. I’m sure sure origin pc’s will have a slight impact on there gpu sales and maybe other company’s will drop amd because there a pile of garbage ;).

        • 123

          It looks like you have zero understanding on technology, it’s pointless trying to explain something to a retard.

        • Baus

          clearly, that’s exactly why Sony and Microsoft chose AMD GPU’s for the NEXTGEN consoles. Also, “Origin” stated that very few people bought AMD GPU’s so I highly doubt that it will impact AMD’s gpu sales. Nvidia and AMD make excellent graphics cards one may have a slight edge then the other but on a price standpoint nvidia is always very high. It’s frustrating seeing comments from people like you. You have no idea what you’re saying and just ramble on a bowl of nothing. Get your facts straight.

        • Guy Parris

          well that’s the thing sony and ms have made a big mistake choosing the cheapest components. There cheap for a reason. Why do you’s amd fans always use excuses or change the story. Did you read the article? they stopped selling due to gpu problems and negative customer feedback. Sony wanted nvidia and nvidia rejected them because the knew that next gen consoles are going to be a load of rubbish which they are. Nvidia make much better gpu’s there drivers, smooth frame rates and the rest of there nvidia goodness are such top notch. How long has it taken amd to smooth there frames a bit? cause nvidia done it a long time ago. How long has it taken them to fix latency issues? because people are still reporting latency issues to date. AMD are cheap for a reason. Intel and nvidia hold most of the market for a reason because there just to good amd is in a finical state for a reason. That reason is because there a pile of rubbish.

        • john

          and you’re a pile of… well you know what :)… and here is why… amd just reported profit this quarter… They own the console market and they made a huge win with the verizon clowd – first major win in server area for amd since… time immemorial…

          Let me remind you one thing about your beloved titan & 780 those are behemoth chips they are not advanced nor are they clever they are just huge chips. It’s the typical blunt thinking, we can’t beat on cc/kw we’ll just stick a bigger engine in it… the titan is 30% bigger yet I bet the 290x will beat it at launch and mop the floor with it later on with better drivers.(being 30% smaller and this chip is on the same node mind you!) . So you’re paying for quantity noooot… quality. nvidia hardware/silicon has always been much more rudimentary then ati/amd ever was but they always had better drivers, software support, binning & marketing… a victim of which you obviously are…

          Microstutter was reported for years you plonk… nobody cared because nobody had a software to measure it until… well until nvidia released a software to measure it along with new drivers that fixed it for their cards… go figure…

          intel… yes they have a better ipc… and better performance because… well… ALL WINDOWS BENCHMARKS RUN ON INTEL COMPILERS CODE you moron… there are little to no performance differences between best i7 and best fx range when running 3-rd party compiled code… that is 22nm vs 32 nm mind you and that is with unified FP unit so… let’s recap intel for you kiddo:
          - lost 30-40% market share in 2 years to amd in the athlon era…
          - needed bribes in the billions order of magnitude to block amd from being sold, money which made one world wide oem 70% of it’s yearly profit mind you
          - needed to introduce a special amd cripple logic in its compilers to finally report benchmark wins.
          - needed to repurpose their server xeon chips(huge behemoths mind you) to beat the athlon.
          - has a settlement with amd of 1bn $ and some weired patent agreement (I think intel lost some valuable process(silicon) patents to amd but am not sure about it)…
          - has tried to create a gpu from scratch it was called larrabee and never saw the light of day… after 3 yars development…
          - has bought 1bn worth of pattents from nvidia to create the HD series… they are at the 5-th generation and they only … well they still LOSE…to AMD even when the ram is soldered to the chip…(8 years after first gpu endeavors)

          … so tell me kiddo how advanced nvidia & intel really are…

          let’s recap your support for:
          nvidia: the company touting woden cards as products, that has made a living out of buying and then slowly releasing 3dfx technology (sli was 4 years earlyer on voodoo then on any nvidia card). That was unable to beat qualcom & samsung at chipmaking (this is the kicker!!) where they got a bloody nose with every tegra… that had multimonitor support 2 generations later then amd & still can’t do 6 screens at once like AMD can for example…

          intel: a bribing, market controlling, benchmark altering company that is slowly loosing more and more ground in nodesize & technology because of … TSMC, Samsung & GF??? A company that can’t compete in the ultra low wattage envelope where any ARM chip is… well… mopping the floors with intel chips on the same wattage…

          WTF dude … get a clue… I know you need to have arguments when you ask your momma for more money for the biggest baddest chip from intel and the biggest baddest card from nvidia… but this sort of comment is really stupid and doesn’t justify your tantrums when you squeezed(or tried to) your parents for the 1k thrown towards a titan ;)

        • Guy Parris

          You guys put way too much faith into AMD.

          A company that’s 20 billion dollars in debt, has recently laid off 1000s of employees, has had significant cuts to R&D, product delays, and developer relationships are still broken, oh and it took them nearly 10 years to implement a bandaid fix for Xfire stuttering.

          Seriously, AMD is a volatile and extremely high risk company. Take what they say with a grain of salt.

          These new 290x cards, BARELY match a 2 year old rehash card the 780. Apparently you guys forgot just how long kepler has been around, and AMD is just now catching up.

          Maxwell is out at the start of 2014. I highly suggest avoiding buying these junk AMD cards.

          this card is e relevant it has taken amd 6 months to come with something against nvidia and it can’t even beat the titan it’s a joke.

          anyway I can’t wait for I cant wait for AMD to Bulldozer this loooooool. mantel is all hype just like bulldozer was.

        • john

          you do have reading comprehension defficiency do you not?

          First… you do realize you compare a 30% bigger chip (that means less economical) on the same process and calling this crap? You do realize on-par performance with titan just goes to show you how primitive nvidia really is!(30% more primitive that is)

          Show me where AMD has 20bn debt and I’ll eat my words… their total debt never exceded ~4bn… and then they parted from the silicon production along with 2bn $ of the debt. Then they payed back the debt to what is now ~1bn or so left. Return to profitability means that they are now producing more money then they are spending (including debt repay that is) – get your fact straight kiddo…

          Second this chip is still GCN… and if you call on production I call on fermi! Let the deepfrier cards roll in… if you really want to talk about delays, bad execution, not to mention lies from nvidia… read up… keyword fermi

          Maxwell will be on 20 nm or something of the sort – with previous problems I expect this to ship in H2 of 2014… by that time amd will have a refresh on 20nm of their own so…?

          And Titan with its 550 sqr cm beat a ~350 sqr cm of the 7970 ghz… wow really good tech right there!! That behemoth needed to be ~60% bigger to beat it by 20% in performance… wow boy you got me there nvidia is deffinately more advanced jeez….

          To you pun related to bulldozer – that was a totally new architecture from scratch redone by a not so brilliant chip designer with not too much time to refine it and not too much time to research it – it was a catastrophy I agree – But AMD learned its lessons and brought back the K7 mastermind(s?) back to fix it – the piledriver core will be the first one he had some say in and only the excavator will be his child and I do belive he really intends to bring the K7 days back – we shall see.

        • Guy Parris

          gcn is horrible man gives me the shivers. lol let’s hope amd get there cpu right this time then. did you hear about the 780ti?

        • john

          aand what exactly do you base your “horrible” assessment on? Maybe the compute throughput with open cl where a 7970 has double the power of a titan? Ooor perhaps that it took 60% more diesize of cuda to beat gcn by 10-20%? Do not forget we’re speaking same node cross the board(28 nm) and same provider afaik TSMC.

          I get it that you need to justify your decision for buying an origin built but spewing stupid arguments on the internet won’t make your bad decision go away ;)

          And just so you know I have a A10-6800K with 16gb 2.4 ghz ram and I can play any game I desire… self built on air/stock my entire “rigg” fits in 500$ (with screen & all)… and I get frames close to my friend who has an i5 with slower memory and a low-middrange nvidia gpu… his system… 1200$… well I’d say I’m better off… tah-tah!

        • David Calloway

          Another reason why consoles chose AMD is because of the little stunt NVidia pulled last time they were put in consoles.

        • Taint The Saint

          Guy Parris.. Your thought terminating cliche’s are boring. Are you getting paid by nvidia to use inductive fallacies? If not you should ask for some dividends.

      • Bleed

        Unoptimized drivers.. Still not perfected and there is a 2-3% difference in performance.. At a much lower rumored price point.. You have no Idea what you are saying.. You are just a fanboy..

        • Sasquatch

          Typical comment “Oh give them a break the drivers are unoptimized”. Yeah? well how about release some decent drivers for once, the R9 290X is a shambles, and won’t beat the Titan even with drivers 1 year down the line. brand new architechture that can’t even beat 18 month old hardware, shocker.

        • Mr357

          The card isn’t even out yet; why would there be mature (good) drivers for it? If you’re going to call the 290X architecture new, then you can’t exactly call the Titan 18 months old. It was just released less than 6 months ago. I understand if your argument is that GK110 is actually very old, but so is GCN, which essentially is what the 290X is built upon. Will the 290X beat the Titan? Clock for clock, I doubt it, but a man can dream.

        • http://www.kn00tcn.net/ kn00tcn

          oh ok, let’s ignore how nvidia driver updates keep saying 5, 10, 15, even 20 % gains

          titan & 780 are faster now than they were at launch, most everything gets & will get faster after launch

      • Serpent of Darkness

        If I am not mistaken, those benches are only at the Stock Frequency of only 1.0GHz, and not 1.1GHz Turbo. Point is this: Between 1.0 and 1.1 GHz Core Frequencies, it doesn’t take a lot for AMD RX9-290 to beat the GTX Titan (not a full Titan; there is less Cuda Cores than the WS card of 2880 Count) in performance. Another point to consider, RX9-290 is 30% to 35% more performance than the 7970 GHZ Edition. The performance of the 7970 GHz Edition does roughly 50% less FPS than the GTX Titan. So the RX9-290 should theoretically do twice the performance of the 7970 GHz Edition. Either going toe-to-toe at stock, with the GTX Titan, or better… At a single card perspective, AMD driver and Frame Latency issues won’t mean much. Single Card Performance, AMD always tops NVidia. Since CrossfireX is going to occur through the PCIe Bus, transfer rates will probably make a huge difference through the PCIe 3.0 x16 Lanes if the drivers are tuned properly. NVidia will probably copy the tech if they ever get their PCIe 3.0 x16 support worked out in time for Maxwell…

        • Serpent of Darkness

          50% less FPS than the GTX Titan, is an exaggeration. It’s more like 34% + or – 7% FPS difference between the 7970 GHz and GTX Titan….

        • Guy Parris

          290x still gets beat period and no doubt the 790 will destroy it. All I’m saying is amd said it will be faster than the titan but it’s clearly not. Awh so you need a 290x overclocked edition to beat the titan, that’s cute lol. I’m sure if you put your 1100mhz 290x against a 980mhz titan it will still get beat. the titan beat it by 10 fps in one of them games even in the 3d benchmarks the titan clearly beats it by a bit. AMD are full of crap as usual. They can’t even fix there gpu problems and latency issues never mind trying to make a good card. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/origin-pc-drops-amd-gpus-from-product-line-up/0122204

        • Mtom

          poor OC TItan /cry

        • Mtom
        • Serpent of Darkness

          Clearly, we can impose the rank of “Brain-dead” NVidia Fan Boi on you. If you look at all the screen shots posted on Videocardz.com, on the topic of discussion, you’d notice all the GPUz screenshots. They all show 1000 Mhz. This is the stock frequency. I think it’s safe to say, all these benches were done at the Stock Frequency. It supports my point or theory that the RX9-290 has very little effort to surpass GTX Titan in performance. Now you could be right. GTX 790, a dual 780 Graphic Card, “could” beat the RX9-290. Lets think of it from another logical point of view. The difference in performance between the GTX Titan and GTX 780, FPS wise, is 13.2%. There’s a 0.99% difference in performance between the two generations. If that were true, a dual GPU 780 would have 2304 Cuda Cores x2, at 980 MHz Boost Clock. Dual GPUs have lower Core Frequencies for stability. 19.24% performance difference between the GTX 790 and GTX Titan. That’s not a very big jump for the GTX 790, but this jump will probably surpass the RX9-290, but not by much… Since it won’t be a performance difference by much, a Dual GPU RX9-290 will easily surpass the GTX 790. GTX Titan Ultra might be a contender, but not by much…

        • Thomas Kerr

          it still up in the air if the 290X will beat a titan. If it doesn’t it will only be in the 5% range most likely. And looking at the tech reviews coming from Tom’s hardware and others it definitely beats the GTX 780. Considering its looking to be around 30% cheaper in price that will spell trouble for Titan sales. Also the GTX 790 argument isn’t valid since it will have 2 GPU’s and be out of most peoples price range unless Nvidia really slashes their profit margin which they won’t do since it would show they are really concerned by the 290X.
          Currently I am upgrading from a 7970 lightening to the 290X. I contemplated a titan but nixed it when I saw I could get similar performance with the 290X and have money left over to pay for 2/3 of a 29″ IPS monitor. Then about 6 months down the line I plan on adding a second 290X

      • Taint The Saint

        LOL and they are using an engineering sample with drivers that are very beta.. How bout we go find a EN sample titan with drivers that are new, or better yet not yet available for it and do some benching… Give it 2 months of driver maturity and the titan wont be able to hang..

      • jz100

        Typical Nvidia fanboy who knows nothing.

    • mdraven

      no it doesnt opening of bioshock infinite you have the biggest logo of AMD in red